Quick interview #7: The Scarletts


The Scarletts are ‘three boys and a girl from in and around Oxford, whose music is influenced by old punk records, two tone, Britpop, being young and booze.’

1.What do you think you sound like?

A young band. Not completely intentionally and I don’t say that as an excuse for being shit at playing our instruments, but a band that hopefully celebrates, comments on and pokes fun at youth culture. Which from what we can make out consists mainly of getting drunk. So to some it up, we sound a bit like pissed up children.

2. What do you do when you’re not making music?

crawl our way through various forms of further education, all loosely based around art. Gap year, next year at last. Apart from that, drink tea, drink beer, films, gardening, child mind, work in pubs, support Tottenham Hotspur f.c, play on Mario kart.

3. Recommend us a good band or album and tell us what’s good about it.

Supergrass- I should co co. written by pissed up children growing up in oxford. We relate, obviously. Brilliantly simple and immediate as well being very inventive and clever.

4. Where did you get your band name from?

My little baby cousin’s name who was born at around the time we formed.

5. What do you like and dislike about Oxford and its music?

Like:

– Good sound men.

– Johnny Moto.

Nightshift: I think we are very lucky to have a music paper of such a good quality.

The new crop of young slightly more punky bands coming through now – it’s exciting to be a part of.

Dislike:

The 18+ rule at almost all the good venues, which in turn means there is sometimes a lack of atmosphere at gigs. By the time you reach the age at which you are allowed to attend the gigs, you care far to much about what others think to jump around like a tw*t. Kids have less restraint and they just have more fun with it.

  • http://www.spiral25.com/ Joe

    Good interview but the dislike bit makes me think, it is a fair point that there should be more under 18 gigs so I’m totally in agreement.

    I’m 34, I’ve played for Twizz Twangle and Thin Green Candles, not wishing to put either of those acts down but if I was that worried about my image or money then I’d probably not be drumming for a bald guy with a leather that has fairy light plugged into the mains on it, who pogos on stage, goes into the audience whilst playing smoke on the water on a trumpet and then climbs up on the PA and I certainly wouldn’t be in a band with James and Leigh, not with those hats. Fred’s Che T-Shirt is extremely cool though.

    Kids have less restraint? Not sure about that generalisation, I’ve been noticing how more and more kids are way too sensible and restrained these days compared to my teenage years, not all of course, the ones that aren’t so restrained are still having fun smoking crack and stabbing people, it’s one thing to play on being young and rebellious but unfortunately I suspect (and I’m not suggesting this is the case with The Scarletts) that it is paying lip service to the idea, depends on what people are restrained from doing though.

    Sorry to be negative about it but I’m someone who has gone from being the youngest in bands (as a teenager also in Oxford) to being the oldest in bands and the age thing can be a bit divisive and counter productive (although, it was much nicer being the youngest person rather than the oldest!), it’s fine to be young and do the things that young people do but most people eventually realise that it’s not so important and it doesn’t make someone better just because they are young or old.

    You may also find that the restraint that you perceive in older people is simply the result of having a job, children and all the other things that take up time (so you have to go to bed early, can’t drink as much etc). Kids may also have lots of things taking up their time but they shouldn’t have to have the same responsibilities as adults. When I was a teenager I was out drinking special brew, shouting at traffic, vomiting alot and sniffing petrol, er.. so maybe it’s true, I am more restrained, I don’t sniff petrol anymore.

    Punk is dead.

  • matt scarlett

    i was more thinking about the difference between 13- 17 year olds who tend to give less of a shit even than 18 and 19 year olds.

  • Lind

    I love how the first post ends. I think its pretty true aswell. Whenever a punk band comes on tv these days, I cringe.

  • http://www.spiral25.com/ Joe

    “i was more thinking about the difference between 13- 17 year olds who tend to give less of a shit even than 18 and 19 year olds.”
    Thanks clearing that up and it makes more sense now you’ve said that, I’m glad you used the word “tend” this time as that one word makes it make more sense on it’s own.

  • Reaed me, Eat me, Drink me

    ‘Whenever a punk band comes on tv these days, I cringe.’

    What punk bands would these be then? i need to start watching more telly cus the last time i saw a real punk band on the box Grundy got sacked!

  • Meanie

    oooh look were young we get drunk well fucking done we’ve all been there.

    ‘being young’ isnt really an influence. You could be young and very boring.

    at least you support spurs

    god……

  • thin green fred.

    Why do I dislike the The Scarletts before even listening to them or meeting them? There is just something about the interview and photo that I did like and I can’t put my finger on it, Sorry Scarlettes I am sure you are nice people and I will now go and listen to your music and judge you on that rather than a silly photo and short interview …maybe it’s because I am over 30 (just)

  • thin green fred.

    me again. Just listened to your stuff and it all became clear. I am not meant to like you it’s the true sprit of punk. How many 30+ hated the sex pistol and did not like the look of them? I also hated the libertines.
    Your music is ok shouty ska punk about growing up and things relevant to you.
    cool sorry about my little rant to myself feel fre to list all the reason you dislike TGC

  • matt scarlett

    “oooh look were young we get drunk well fucking done we’ve all been there.”

    we are in no way showing off about drinking. Infact if you listened its more about taking the piss out of people getting drunk than saying its a great thing to do or that we are great for doing it.

    “‘being young’ isnt really an influence. You could be young and very boring.”

    never said it was and influence. But is a key factor in what we sound like and wright about.

    at least you support spurs

    nice one.

  • thin green fred.

    Youth -A key factor in what you sound like and wright about – Is that not the same as a influence?
    also taking the piss out of people getting drunk is not very punk. Drink-Fight- Shag

  • matt scarlett

    yeh, well i would say being young IS an influence of kinds, just not quite in the same musical sense a band or artist can be, which i think is what “meanie” was getting at.

    “taking the piss out of people getting drunk is not very punk” – we never said we are punk! not in this interview anyway. Sure it says it on our myspace but thats really just because we arnt anything else. Being “punk” seems to be the one thing getting us the most stick on this thread. that and being young. Sure we are influenced by punk also reggea, hip-hop, dance to name a few.

    maybe we should grow beards and start playing folk. (jokeing, keep your beard on [another joke])

  • thin green fred.

    you do sound punk, and punk is cool but so is Drink-Fight- Shaging
    Hats are the future of so i am told by Beaver and James

  • Linda

    actually. they arent nice people. infact incredibly rude. the guitarist barged past me almost knocking me to the floor to get to the stage. didnt even turn around to apologise. to top that off they put on a terrible show. not a fan

    oh so punk.

  • johnny moto

    why all the negativity?

    “rather than a silly photo” if its a bad photo then blame me

    i aint youg anymore put i still appreciate young lively bands,who are free to enjoy their life and make mistakes,have fun as they grow up.go for it i say.

    youth is not a gendre and its pretty fatuos to comment on it i cant see much context in it.
    the stones,beatles,clash,specials just about all the greats where young when they started to influence and play great music.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Er…

    “The new crop of young slightly more punky bands coming through now – it’s exciting to be a part of.”

    This was what I was referring to. Who are these slightly more punky bands I wonder, the last bit is Scarletts aligning themselves with this new crop of young slightly more punky bands.

  • thin green fred.

    it’s a good photo Johnny, It’s the subject matter, ha ha. I not sure why i feel negative about them, There music is good, I like the fact i don’t like them, True puck and all thay, I am sure at some stage i will meet them and they will be cool, Sorry scarlett,
    Just looking at the photo again i think it is the guy with the hat and jacket and chain that bugs me most, But that is ok if you look at James s in our photo you would never come and see us. tAKE CARE ALL

  • Andrew

    Judging by their interview shot I don’t think thin green candles are in a position to comment on anyones photo…

  • you make it so easy to say these things.

    ‘why do i not like them’

    mmm maybe cus they have all there own hair haha

  • A different candle

    Andrew, if your issue is with Fred’s comments then how about you f*** off insulting the rest of us.

  • thin green fred.

    Hay we look good!

  • Andrew

    Why don’t you tell fred to stop insulting his own band first?

    ” if you look at James s in our photo you would never come and see us.”

  • Andrew

    And yes, maybe I should have been more fred specific, sorry

  • jay

    “The new crop of young slightly more punky bands coming through now – it’s exciting to be a part of.”

    This was what I was referring to. Who are these slightly more punky bands I wonder, the last bit is Scarletts aligning themselves with this new crop of young slightly more punky bands.

    I think this band is getting a bit of an uncalled for hard time promoters align bands together my band has played with Scarletts a lot and we get booked together a fair bit this is not cus were aligning ourselevs (we dont select the line up for any giggs we play) but cus our bands our both probably sen as being ‘punky’ we sit together well on a bill…..i think thats all they meant.

    dont hate on them cus there young no ones ripped into TGC after there interview (not even us youngens)

    And to the above post beauty is in the eye of the beholder im sure many a young girl would rather have a scarletts pic on there wall than a pic of Fred or James et al ( imean no offence by that it just seems a bit of a daft point to call them on (the pic i mean) they look good all there own hair and teeth nice smiles what more do you people want heh

  • jay

    Be nice.

  • Clouds

    I think even though I’m not that young myself, I understand where they come from and what they are trying to say in the interview. They didn’t say THEY were punk, they said they were “influenced” by punk music…2 very diferent things.
    I’ve seen them live and I also have listened to their demos many times (staple party tunes!!!)and I love the commiment and energy they have which evidently has something to do with how young they are.
    The way they look is a superfluos matter and shouldn’t be an important factor on weather a band are good or not.
    When you are young you feel as if the older people look down on you or don’t get you…I wonder why!!!!

  • thin green fred.

    A different candle – ? He was only commenting on our photo, I had done the same to them so i don’t see the prob?
    jay – if young girls had a photo of me or James on there wall i think we would lose our Jobs very quickly, so it a good thing they don’t.
    Clouds – There music is Punk music. That’s OK. its OK to be punk.
    Jay – I don’t hate them because they are young, I mused in my first post about why i feel a dislike towards them.
    It’s good that promoters but bands together, It helps the flow of the night, our best gig was when we played with SHOTP and FLTS to band with a similar sound to us.

    I see a divide developing TGC v TSR & TS, I don’t want that. I know i have had issues with wrong way in the past for deleting and re editing post to make people sound like liars but that should not effect t he way i feel about TS, maybe it is i don’t know. Maybe i should just shut up for fear of making TGC look bad, Bugger. anyway I will meet you all oneday and be nice as pie, sorry if things have gone a bit off track read my first few post again and see where i was trying to come from

  • Rob

    All I remember when seeing these guys is perhaps the worst guitar sound ever. Too much of every effect making the guitar sound like it was coming from another room.

  • jay

    i was actually gonna put a post saying that in all fairness to Fred the comments wernt that bad he did listen and all that and was actualy complimantory (excuse the spelling) no beef just healthy discussion…i love this interview thing its a new debate everyday (who needs NS heh)

    and were not aligned with any band my comments to you wernt a diss i said i meant no offence by it and i reallt didnt i dont know Fred from Freddy nor Joe and Jamess is a genious person very funny very welcoming people shouldnt get so defensive so quick thers a few people who just type insults for the sake of it i dont think Fred SR TS (even you Joe) coud be accused of that though….its all good in the hood folks every band wants a debate after there intervirew it shows people have read it.

    ill see you at the 3bm show and we will be nice back.

    oh and TGC you should play with/ check out Adrenachrome yous would sit well together on a bill…(i reckon yous would appreciate the sweet beats)

    Oh and i didnt try and make Joe look crazy by deleting posts he did that all by himself.

  • Clouds

    Fred: No divide at all! We like to argue a point just as much as you do…c’mon everyone loves a bit of forum debate (by the way we are not TSR, just SR…).

    Also I don’t think you should shut up for the sake of your band. I understand that you are not the band and that you speak for yourself and not everyone else…

    Just enjoy the debate!

  • Big Tim

    Someone’s gonna light a joss stick and start singing Kum-by-ya in a minute like some hippy love-in.

    Let’s all play our bongos in the dirt…

  • jay

    You see we can bring the peace as well as the drama :)

  • Beaver Fuel

    happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy joy… if’n you ain’t the grandaddy of all liars… the little critters of nature… they don’t know that they’re ugly… that’s very funny, a fly marrying a bumblebee… I told you I’d shoot, but you didn’t believe me… why didn’t you believe me?

  • Kev

    I just read this interview and I havent learnt anything interesting about the band. Had a listen, and “we sound a bit like pissed up children” is absolutely spot on.

  • thin green fred.

    The real Kev or the Fake kev?

  • Kev

    fake i suppose. but my name is Kevin.. . . . . . . .

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    “I think this band is getting a bit of an uncalled for hard time” – Jay

    Yet again Jay it seems you have failed to read and comprehend what is going on. I’m not giving anyone a hard time here. If you re-read my original post you see that I said I liked the interview, that I agreed about the lack of under 18 gigs (that is “gigs” not “giggs”, you could at least get that right seeing as it’s your bread and butter). What I was discussing was the dislike bit, which apparently due to failure on the part of one of Scarletts to make himself clear I thought he was making a generalisation about age, which I disagree with, since then it has been clarified and I’ve accepted that.

    Unfortunately I think practically everyone of these silly arguments that keep happening are caused by lack of good communication skills and people becoming over emotional about something, not reading things properly, jumping to conclusions and then immediately reacting to a situation that doesn’t really exist.

    This is what I tried to point out at the beginning of that ill fated thread on Nightshift, clearly I failed to communicate myself properly on that occassion.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Oh and before anyone starts:

    Yes there are others around whose spelling isn’t so great but for some reason I have no trouble understanding them and they apparently have no trouble understanding me.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    “They didn’t say THEY were punk, they said they were “influenced” by punk music…2 very diferent things.”

    Clouds – it seems that you haven’t read and understood the review properly and you haven’t read and understood my post properly.

    I didn’t say that I thought Scarletts were punk, however, Scarletts aligned themselves with the new young punky bands.

    I don’t see what your problem is with it anyway! It comes across as if you and Jay have a bee in your Graham Bonnet about something else and you are using these comments as a mean to get at that.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Oh and before you overreact to my last statement pay attention to this bit:

    “It comes across as if…” remember what I said about perception?

  • Reaed me, Eat me, Drink me

    Sorry Joe only read the first line but i didnt say Joe is giving this band a hard time did i…wind it in please.
    “I think this band is getting a bit of an uncalled for hard time” – Jay

    only you could take this quote and write 3 paragraphs on it haha.

    no ones arguing Fred knew he would create debate and no ones said owt thats out of line?!?!?

    and regarding your apology you sent me on the forum for ‘over reacting and not reading my posts clearley’ its fine Joe dont worry about it i really couldnt give a toss
    just dont excuse me of doing it when you do it so much you get your bands cd’s taken down and shouted off forums.

    chillax .

    if you dont post comments no one will debate them if you do however accept that people may disagree and put there point across and dont take it so personal when they do, your rep proceeds you Joe it REALLY does and maybe you need to take your own advice a bit more your probably a nice guy you just talk yourself into so much bother.

  • Reaed me, Eat me, Drink me

    ” it seems that you haven’t read and understood the review properly and you haven’t read and understood my post properly.”

    what review is this then…..do you see what a tit i look for even pointing out your little mistake…..(im not proud haha)

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    “The way they look is a superfluos matter and shouldn’t be an important factor on weather a band are good or not.”

    That’s your opinion. In reality image matters, it’s human nature. Peacocks do it, people in tribes in the middle of the jungle do it, we do it. Music is about music, being in a band isn’t just about music. We have more than 1 sense and people tend to like to use them.

    The other thing which kind of makes your statement void is that if the way bands look didn’t matter then why bother going to SEE a band?

    “When you are young you feel as if the older people look down on you or don’t get you…I wonder why!!!!”

    Another reason why you wind me up. This is utter rubbish, it might be true from your point of view (I suggest it is misguided though) but you are not all young people and you are not the only person ever to have been young.

    Understand this:

    I was young once (actually, what am I going on about – I am still young – you apparently define youth in your own terms though) and I never felt once that older people looked down on me. I spent much of my teenager years hanging around with people at least twice my age.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    “what review is this then…..do you see what a tit i look for even pointing out your little mistake…..(im not proud haha)”

    haha Yes, little mistake, interview NOT review, fair enough, sorry. Even you understood what I meant though so it wasn’t such a bad mistake was it. haha.

  • Reaed me, Eat me, Drink me

    yes Even me

    ”Unfortunately I think practically everyone of these silly arguments that keep happening are caused by lack of good communication skills and people becoming over emotional about something, not reading things properly, jumping to conclusions and then immediately reacting to a situation that doesn’t really exist.”

    Clouds said she wasnt young, so again TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE MAN!

  • Bored stiff

    ‘ In reality image matters’ -Joe

    talking of which 1972 called…they want there beards and hair back.

  • matt scarlett

    “actually. they arent nice people. infact incredibly rude. the guitarist barged past me almost knocking me to the floor to get to the stage. didnt even turn around to apologise.”

    sorry. im sure he didnt mean too, and would have apologised if he had known.
    fair enough not likeing our band but to say we all arent nice people because of one small accident is compleatly over the top.

  • Clouds

    Joe, just to make it clear what I posted wasnt a reply to you, it’s an opinion.
    I try and avoid conversations with you for no other reason that reading your posts drains the energy out of me.

    I’m all for discussions, but not when people try to convince me my opinions are wrong…becuase there is no wrong opinions, just different ones.

    Happy debating!

  • jay

    ‘ In reality image matters’ -Joe

    talking of which 1972 called…they want there beards and hair back.

  • jay

    I joke of course i like your little beards really. :)

    (it was just too hard to resist making a quick joke about while we you were on the subject of image)

  • Clouds

    “Clouds – it seems that you haven’t read and understood the review properly and you haven’t read and understood my post properly.”

    I would like to point out the fact that it’s not a review, it’s an interview!!

    “I don’t see what your problem is with it anyway! It comes across as if you and Jay have a bee in your Graham Bonnet about something else and you are using these comments as a mean to get at that.”

    I don’t have a problem Joe, as I said before just putting down my thoughts on the interview and the band in a music forum…As far as I can see me and Jay are not the only ones posting here, so why are we the ones with a problem? Every post we make is not about you or directed at you…I didnt even attack or dispute your points, so it seems to me that you may be the one with the problem.