Inlight / Jessie Grace / Samuel Zasada / Luke Keegan @ The Jericho Tavern, Oxford, 06/06/2009

“What are you here to see?”, asks the girl at the Jericho’s desk. “Just, err, music”, I reply. It turns out that the organisers use this method to calculate how much to pay the performers. Bit depressing, really, isn’t it? A whole system predicated on the assumption that nobody is going to come out on the off-chance they’ll hear some good music looks like a tacit admission that the promoters have already given up on the idea of enticing fresh blood into the venue, and are relying on the acts to bully their friends and colleagues into coming along. What’s even more depressing is that they’re probably right.

Anyway, as the system seems grossly unfair to Samuel Zasada, who is standing in after a change to the advertised lineup, we put our tick against his name. But before we get to Samuel, there’s the unpleasant matter of Luke Keegan‘s set to deal with. There he is, strumming away at some forgettable acoustic songs, droning in a voice that’s half pub singalong, and half lax karaoke Bowie, whilst a chap who looks fantastically like a spry Erroll Brown adds some very proficient, but rather disjointed bongo accompaniment. Looking up at one point I see I am one of four people actually listening, three of whom appear to be close friends or family, and the gig begins to feel like an episode of Flight Of The Conchords. “Did you hear about tomorrow?”, sings Luke; yes, it was when I woke up and realised this was a bad and very boring, dream. Thankfully the last song has a bit of drama, featuring the howled chorus “I never had that bloody hammer”, which is either an impassioned defence in a brutal murder inquest, or the sound of petty argument in a carpentry workshop.

When Mr Zasada starts up, we decide that he’s well worth our cover charge support, as his voice is immense: creamy, guttural and melodic, with the breath control to rip into some intriguingly wordy verses. He’s got a real talent, but this set seems deliberately designed to hide this fact. The accompanists don’t help any: a man playing possibly the most uninspired cajon we’ve seen, and a woman who might well be Britain’s top canine ventriloquist, as she seldom opens her mouth, and when she does, the sound is clearly inaudible to human ears. Ignoring this dismal pair, the songs just don’t seem to be quite there. We’d like to see Samuel with a nice tight band at the more literate end of roots pop – say, something in the Counting Crows line – and then we feel we’d have something to get excited about. Once again, the last track is the winner, as the two stooges leave the stage to let Zasada sing a brutal murder ballad, which sounds like Dylan’s “Don’t Think Twice, It’s Alright” rewritten by Travis Bickle. At one point I look up and discover that I’m one of two people actually listening. I’m not sure which is sadder, that the braying horde is not giving this musician a chance, or that he’s not utilising such a great voice to make them sit up and listen.

Jessie Grace‘s appearance ups the quality of the night enormously. Put simply, she has a gorgeous voice, and some pretty impressive control to go with it. In the opening number along, which sounds like a version of “Heart Attack & Vine” rearranged by Joni Mitchell, she swoops from sweetly sinister incantation a la mid-period P J Harvey to gutsy rock stridency, with just a hint of soul. She plays the first half of the set on a tiny guitar – is it an alto? – giving just the right amount of garage fuzz to offset her clear, winning voice. Later she switches to a standard acoustic, and the set drifts a tiny bit into Tunstallised neo-folk pleasantries, before the final number (it’s a good night for set closers, evidently), with its playfully lopsided rhythms impresses us once again with Grace’s abilities. I’m reminded of the first time I saw Laima Bite, or Richard Walters: with a voice like this, why isn’t everyone in the room twitching with excitement? But, like Bite or Walters, behind the voice the songs themselves don’t make a gigantic impression on first listening; there are certainly no lyrics that caught the ear. Still, with a voice like that we’re quite prepared to put the effort into finding out whether Grace’s songs turn out to be growers.

When Inlight crank up, the first thought is that there’s been a gross miscarriage of musical justice in this town. They’ve had any number of stinking reviews, but the first tune not only shows a band who look like they’ve been playing together since they were put on solids, but is also an epic piano-led swoon that really isn’t far from A Silent Film’s celebrated stock in trade. The following track only serves to bolster such musings, revealing an instinctive knack for balancing the quartet’s sound, and showing the bassist’s subtle inventiveness.

Sadly, the effect is marred once they get to a mawkish ballad, because not only is the song asinine and vacuous, but the same audience who were literally shouting and banging tables during the previous sets are in rapt silence and serving me a stew of black looks just for having a conversation near the back of the room about how good the band are! Still, you can’t judge an artist by their fans; I’d certainly have to sling the old Wagner records on the fire, if so. Ultimately Inlight don’t quite have the compositions to hold the attention for a full set, and too many songs seem to exist solely because they can play them well. It’d be nice to see some more adventurous writing, and an appeal to something other than the broadest emotions, but we can imagine that on a huge stage in the summer dusk Inlight could be just the ticket. Does the critical reappraisal start here?

  • http://thisrealitypodcast.com This Reality Podcast

    In places this is a fine and balanced review.

    In places.

    Samuel Zasada’s voice is beautiful and very reminiscent of Tom Hoskins of the absolutely brilliant Australian band 16 Millimetre. His companions on-stage were… puzzling, to say the least.

    Jessie Grace performed a powerful set; her on-stage presence was unmistakeable yet her material was not like the recorded work of hers that we’ve heard.

    inLight continue to cement as a band. They looked cool and relaxed yet produced some examples of brilliant and passionate musicianship.

    But as for people making noise. My wife took issue with a couple of complete and utter drunken knobheads who stood in the middle of the floor conversing at the top of their voices during a very quiet ballad.

    That kind of pissed-up knobhead behaviour is absolutely fucking unacceptable.

    If you were one of that pair (and by your own admission you’re well in the frame for the charge!) you’re obviously not in a position to judge said ballad because the only sounds that those of us at the back of the room could hear was your drunken shouting.

    And you should be completely ashamed of yourself for spoiling the experience for all of the other paying customers.

  • what now

    to be honest i think if the band was drowned out by 2 people conversing (oh sorry drunken knobheads…people drinking and being loud at a gig whatever noext)
    then they need to turn there bloody anps up the audience dosent owe the band its attention they had probably paid to get in i suspect so its up to the band to stun them into silence sureley?

    just an opposing view.

  • Luci

    This review is very balanced, in fact I commented on how the first set reminded me of a Flight of the Conchords episode at the time.

    However, as the canine ventriloquist from Samuel Zasada I feel I need to defend myself… The review was so balanced that I have to take on board the comments made but we had less then 24 hours notice for this gig. I usually have my keyboard with me (hence why I sat doing nowt though a couple of songs) but we are moving house and it is currently in storage.

    Also, I feel it is unfair to criticise the fact that you couldn’t hear me as this is clearly the sound tech’s responsibility. I did ask him to turn my vocals down “a little” after the soundcheck as I felt they were overbearingly loud, I did not however mean that they should be inaudible. This was a very uncomfortable experience for me too as I couldn’t hear myself and trying to sing harmonies in that situation is not good! I will… if this happens again, just have the sense to ask them to turn my vocals up but I didn’t want to interrupt and naively thought the soundman would soon realise the problem…

    I am so very pleased that Samuel Zasada is getting a good reception now because he has worked so hard and is extremely talented. I feel awful for letting him down. We are usually a 6 piece band but with such short notice we couldn’t get everyone together. I know that this matters not to the audience but I do feel the need to explain.

    Jessie Grace was amazing, I have not seen her live before. She has a wonderful presence and beautiful voice.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Sorry about this!

  • Big Tim

    > the only sounds that those of us at the back of the room could hear was your drunken shouting.

    Maybe you need to be a bit more supportive and stand near the front, rather than lurking in the shadows at the back. If it’s too loud for your poor ears then wear earplugs. (I’d actually recommend that anyway…)

    You may not realise this as a punter, but for the band it makes a huge difference. Do you wonder why bands make twats of themselves saying “come on everyone, move forward”? It’s because there’s nothing more depressing than working for a year to write material you really believe in, rehearse it, get yourself the gig and then have all the people that are there to see you stand at the back of the room like naughty schoolkids at a disco.

    The band wants to enjoy the gig as much as the punter, and when there’s 30 or 40 people in the room but you are still playing to large empty space in front of you it’s very frustrating.

    Show your support – let the band know you are there.

  • colinmackinnon

    Thanks for explaining the situation Luci- let us know when you are playing again and we’ll send someone down to review you all when you are at full strength. Soundmen in general can be intimidating presences, but at heart they are all good guys and love their music- they’ll usually be as accomodating to the acts as they can.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    The last time I saw an audience cower at the back of the room and not step forward was because most of the audience clearly didn’t like the music.

    The way to get people to come to the front is to invite someone like Jeremy in his poncho along or dancing girl, people attract other people, if you get a couple of people to stand at the front then others are more likely to do so.

    Asking the crowd to come forward can backfire and make you look uncomfortable. Unless you are some happy engaging band that isn’t too embarrassing it’s probably better to leave the crowd to their misery lurking in the shadows than embarrass them by picking on them to come forward. Personally I don’t think bands should expect their audiences to stand right at the front and I don’t think if the crowd does leave a gap that it always means they don’t like you. The kind of bands I like are exactly the kind of bands which I just enjoy standing at the back listening to, however, I tend to make a point of going to the front if there’s no one else there anyway, even if it makes me stick out like a local nutter. Oh hang on…

  • colinmackinnon

    I think I’m with Joe rather than Tim here. As a performer, I don’t care where the audience stands- so long as they are in the room and listening!

    By the way, I heard that Inlight ballad too. It was their weakest number by a mile- cheesy, mawkish and hilariously po-faced. Sorry Gramps, but I paid my entry money and I’ll have a conversation if and when I want. This was a rock gig, not a state funeral.

  • sarah

    Did you stay beyond the ‘cheesy’ ballad- the last 3 songs were the best by far, yet not mentioned in the review?

  • Beaver Fuel

    Drunkenstein cracked the pasty thing at the Sheaf the other week by placing cake and bubble fluid on the front of the stage, but yes, Jeremy and Penny are certainly an encouragement.
    John Peel always stood at the back though…

  • Big Tim

    My feeling is that if the band is in closer proximity to the audience, it gives them more confidence and a greater interaction with the crowd. That in turn makes them put on a better gig, enjoy it more, and hopefully makes the crowd enjoy it more. Maybe that’s not so critical for bands that don’t rely on the energy of a gig.

    I do understand that for less loud/aggressive/rocky music that audience appreciation is possibly more important than having a bunch of loonys throwning themselves around in front of you, but I can’t believe that *any* musician gets just as much enjoyment from playing to a bunch of people lurking around the back of a darkened room than they do when the crowd is right there for them.

  • phill

    “John Peel always stood at the back though…”

    Not always. He stood at the front at one of my gigs – he was right infront of me when I was playing which made the gig really odd.

  • jamess

    just a quick reply to luci – the soundman’s not on stage next to you, so cannot hear what you can, or not. Next time you cannot hear yourself in the monitor, stick it out till the end of the song, then politely but very firmly tell the sound man what you need.
    virtually all the time there will be a bit more to offer in terms of volume of your voice through the monitors.
    You can certainly help yourself by pushing your voice a bit more as well – sometimes i come across a singist with a very gentle voice, who might possibly imagine that the microphone does all the work, but you can help yourself a huge amount by pretending the mike isn’t there, and serenading Deaf Granny Wobble at the back of the room.

    loud drunken conversations? Never! Ordinary conversations? definitely – i’d expect a band to attempt to command my attention, and if i’m drawn to a song, than that’s great, but i’ll not stand there reverently hangong onto every note in grim silence if it’s not inspiring!

    oh, and if anyone out there fears the oxford pasty…break it with cake!

  • Luci

    Thanks Colin and James for your comments. I really do appreciate the insight.

    Next time will be much better I am sure, feedback is always a good thing and can only help to improve matters- that’s if Mr Zasada doesn’t find replacement’s for his dismal stooges :)

    As for the crowd- We didn’t stay all night but saw through Jessie Grace set and I thought the crowd lively but not overbearingly loud. They seemed to listen when something grabbed them which I think is fair enough.

  • Beaver Fuel

    Reports are coming in that Inlight’s fans talked all the way through the quiet stuff and then got pissy when people talked during Inlight’s set. As for drunken knobheads, you may want to do a little research…

  • Alex

    The ballard thing was not my cup of tea but (judging from the atmosphere and the death glares to Colin and David!) it seemed to be a fan favourite, especially among the ladies! As you said at the start of the review, punters seem to go to see particular bands now rather than just music in general and maybe this explains some of the militancy. If people simply aren’t used to going to gigs maybe they expect them to have the same atmosphere as you get when you listen to music at home i.e. you demand the band play the ones you like and everyone else to shut up because you want to listen!

    I’m not if you guys stayed to the end but you may have been relieved to know that the stuff played afterwards was newer, more interesting and a lot more like the first few tracks. Inlight’s frontman is far more compelling when he’s not pandering to the “sensitive soul” image and as you say, given a bit more time in the studio and a few more songs, they could have a really good set. Also, they should probably be thanking you Colin; after moaning at you, all the people at the back got the message and moved to the front! There was even dancing so you obviously provided the much needed kick up the arse!

  • freedomofspeech

    >My wife took issue with a couple of complete and utter drunken knobheads who stood in the middle of the floor conversing at the top of their voices during a very quiet ballad.

    You da man, bro

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Just to back up Jamess on post #13:

    Yes, it is not the soundman’s fault if you can’t hear yourself on stage and you haven’t communicated that fact well enough.

    You can nicely apply the same logic to many things, including writing things on the internet.

    Beaver Fuel at post #15:
    What do they need to research? knobheads? If you anyone needs to research drunken knobheads then buy me a few beers and I’ll give you all the research you need. Actually, I might even do it without the beer.

  • jamess

    “feedback is always a good thing and can only help to improve matters” – Rule #1 of Drunkenstein’s core philosophy.

  • Beaver Fuel

    Joe – identity. See Alex’s post. They weren’t drunk, either.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Ah yes, that makes sense, Leigh. Reading the posts properly put it into perspective.

    I keep trying to make balloon animals but they just keep popping on me and everyone looks at me strangely when I start crying.

  • Beaver Fuel

    “I keep trying to make balloon animals but they just keep popping on me and everyone looks at me strangely when I start crying.”

    So it’s you making all that racket at gigs. All I can hear is squeak, scrunch, squeal BANG! blub…

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Oh yeah and that first point, about asking the name of the band you are going to see on the door. It seems to be happening in London, maybe a replacement for pay to play. I know of 1 venue that states you must get 30 paying customers to be considered to play again and those customers must say your name on the door. Fortunately your guests have to pay aswell, they just get a discounted rate, so if you are a 6 piece band and you can normally manage 1 person on the guest list each then that 6 people taken care of already. Only leaves 24 people to pin down to get to your gig and say your name on the door either that or you have to invite twice that amount or more because it’s normally a case that a percentage of people who say they are coming to the gig don’t actually turn up on the night.

    Unfortunately it looks like unless people fight it this sort of thing will become normal. I’m not sure that would be a good thing for our music communities.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    by the way – I think this interview is really good, informative, balanced and funny.

  • Beaver Fuel

    “>My wife took issue with a couple of complete and utter drunken knobheads who stood in the middle of the floor conversing at the top of their voices during a very quiet ballad.

    You da man, bro”

    I’m the man and so is my wife.

  • Platesmasher

    The first time I heard “which band have you come to see” was a decade ago (showing my age) at what was then the Camden Monarch, so I guess London venues have been doing it for a while. Bit confusing, as I was equally interested in two of the bands. I hope at least one of them got paid after my rambling non-answer.

    “Deaf Granny Wobble”
    Apparently for her bass work with PiL she used really old strings because the treble on new ones set her hearing aid off something fierce.

  • Kev

    Hadnt been to a gig in ages and heard these Inlight guys were quite good so thought I would check this one out. The supports actually made the night for me and were much better than the headline. They played well but the songs just werent any good. Good review

  • http://davidmurphyreviews.blogspot.com david

    Thanks for the interesting thoughts. I think one thing we can take away is that there’s no consensus on what is acceptable behaviour at a gig – even different musicians have different expectations about what makes a good crowd. But I think that to honk away to one act and then get huffy about lack of respect for another (as much of the crowd did – though not all of course, and clearly not TRP, based on insightful comments in Post1) is pretty hypocritical.

    Anyway, this is all unimportant, really, what matters is the music, and I was nicely surprised by Inlight, I expected to hate them judging from previous reviews, but they were perfectly pleasant. Jessie was was a wonderful shock, and Sam showed immense promise.

    Funny that all the people who clamoured about unfair and nasty reviews last time Inlight showed up here haven’t commented: what I wrote about Luke is just as “unsupportive” and “vindictive” as what Zoe wrote about the Next Big Thing final. As ever it appears reviews are only classed as unfair if people disagree with them…

    Oh, I spotted a typo just now: “In the opening number along…” doesn’t make a world of sense; try changing that last G to an E.

    Cheers for reading & commenting!

  • Soph

    I kind of wish I hadn’t said anything now.

    I don’t think I did ‘moan’ at the two blokes. I think I was fairly polite, I didn’t swear or shout at them, and I was terrified the whole time because I hate confrontation, and wouldn’t normally say anything.

    The one who told me to ‘go and stand at the front then!’ in a fairly patronising and aggressive manner was probably right – I should be standing at the front, but I’m not exactly the ‘dancing at the front of the stage’ kind of person, to be honest! And those who were there were far cuter and younger than me – I couldn’t compete!

    Anyway, I won’t bother next time – I’ll cower in the corner and keep quiet. I don’t particularly like being talked to like a lesser being.

  • jamess

    it’s a difficult call, and would depend entirely on whatever frame of mind i had on – discretion and logic would say that the nearer i was to the band, the less interfering chat i’d hear, so, despite looking way too old and uncool, i’d lurch towards the stage.
    on another night i’d be far less polite and tell the noisy people to shut it. But that’s me – a bit changeable.

    don’t cower in a corner though – you paid good money to see a band, and shouldn’t be distracted by others, though i’d expect, and, to be honest, as a performer, be more comfortable, with a certain amount of background natter – rather than a stony silence if people felt they were obliged to be silent.

  • Beaver Fuel

    I don’t mean to cause offence, but if people talking loudly is the worst thing anyone has had to put up with at a gig then they should consider themselves lucky.

  • Joe

    just reading through this. doesnt it say something about the band if people are talking instead of listening?

  • Linda

    “just reading through this. doesnt it say something about the band if people are talking instead of listening?”

    spot on.

    Inlight are a band nobody will ever need. They are simply copying other bands and not pulling it off as well. They just sound too familiar that its not exciting… If somebody said to me “describe an average song” I would describe these guys.

    They are the Athlete of Oxford. What I mean is that there is Coldplay…. then Athlete came on the scene doing pretty much exactly the same thing but not as good. Same thing is happening in Oxford at the moment. We have A Silent Film, do we need another? Simple answer is no… The band needs a new direction. Every review I see for these guys says something along the lines of “great musicians, but the music didnt quite satisfy”.

    For example I know people who can play anything they are asked to on guitar, but ask them to write a song and they dont know where to start.

    Technically the band are great, but musically they are empty. I hope I managed to explain myself here well.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    “just reading through this. doesnt it say something about the band if people are talking instead of listening?”
    Not necessarily.

    It’s a lot more difficult with acoustic type acts where you haven’t got the shocking volume to capture the attention you then need to rely on a good front person to engage the audience. At that point being in a band crosses over with being a good speaker.

    When I was in Henry Marten’s Ghost some people would talk and have fun, others would listen, some of them would come and fiddle with the mixer or ask the sound engineer what the point of his existence was, which was interesting. Good thing that Patrick has a broad Northern Irish accent and somehow managed to make people pay attention.

    I think it all depends on the band, the crowd and the situation, there’s no rule and I think that people just have to put up with it or do something on stage to remedy the situation. There really is little else that can be constructively written on the matter.

  • http://www.last.fm/music/spiral+25 Joe

    Writing songs is over-rated anyway, I prefer to pick up instruments and just play them, the song comes out of that. Each to their own but I don’t think Inlight need to do anything.

  • thin green fred.

    Right my turn.
    When I go to gig I like to stand near the front, In part out of respect for the band. However if they are really bad I will usually pop back out to the bar. The exception to this is if I go with a group of friend, I will stand toward the back chatting (quietly) if the support bands are not that good then move to the front for the band I came to see.

    At the fist few TGC gig we had people dancing at the front and this helped other people mover forwards and fill the space, Lately they have not been there for various reason and we have had that big gap. I would much prefer people to dance but I would never tell people to move forward as it has always made me feel awkward when I have been a punter and that has happened. As for talking during a gig it’s a fine balance, If you want to chat loudly move towards the back, But a little bit of chatter is not a problem, I also like heckling and a bit of banter between the band and the punters

  • thin green fred.

    Joe and James
    13. & 18. Yes, it is not the soundman’s fault if you can’t hear yourself on stage and you haven’t communicated that fact well enough.

    FAT LIL’S ?

  • Plopp

    “I never had that bloody hammer” has been going round and round in my head since that night! I’ve been thinking who’s hammer he could have meant….what happened with the hammer? intriguing

    At the end of the day whether you like the music or not, someone else will love it and who’s to say that they are wrong?

    If there was any artists that absolutely everyone loved, it would be a very boring world that we lived in.

  • thin green fred.

    Holy roman empire had a hammer that they always kept by there bed.
    Please tell me someone get the reference…?

  • jamess

    “Joe and James
    13. & 18. Yes, it is not the soundman’s fault if you can’t hear yourself on stage and you haven’t communicated that fact well enough.

    FAT LIL’S ?
    that wasn’t a soundman -that was an ignorant and unresponsive dork who wouldn;t recognise a monitor if it got shove in his face sideways. i do believe i communicated our needs quite clearly, but he chose to deliberately ignore us. rrrrrrrrr….

  • Plopp

    Aha! thanks for the clarification. My education is obviously not up to scratch.

  • phill

    “FAT LIL’S ?
    that wasn’t a soundman -that was an ignorant and unresponsive dork who wouldn;t recognise a monitor if it got shove in his face sideways. i do believe i communicated our needs quite clearly, but he chose to deliberately ignore us. rrrrrrrrr….”

    You should’ve played Budd’s night then as he gets Dan to do the sound and you wouldn’t of had that!

    I was doing sound for Alphabet Backwards on saturday. Halfway through the set, a guy from the audience came up to me and “Steph’s vocals aren’t as loud as James’ vocals” – to which I replied “yeah, that’s cos she’s the backing singer”.

  • Beaver Fuel

    When Beaver Fuel played Fat Lil’s the sound and soundman were great. Shame my equipment was f***ed…

    “yeah, that’s ‘cos she’s the backing singer” – sometimes you really do have to point out the obvious!

  • jamess

    yarp – to clarify, it wasn;t any kind of reflection on fat lils – a fine venue, and when Beaver Fuel supported Headcount recently the sound was absolutely fine.
    i was referring to when TGC played a few weeks ago, and the person behind the desk deliberately ignored at least 6-7 very clear requests for a significant amount of fred’s laptop in the monitor. It’s not like we were loud – the quietesdt gig i’ve ever played, but i sincerely cound not hear the laptop at all, unless i stopped playing and joe stopped drumming – ghastly!

  • thin green fred.

    I love Alphabet Backwards too much.

  • http://www.gappytooth.com gappy

    The Riverside festival site has this to say about the gig: “A huge thank you to Paul and Fiona who run Fat Lil’s [&] Rhys for the best sound and lighting anywhere”.

    I wasn’t there, I’m just shit stirring. Heh heh. I love Riverside, anyway, so one bad engineer won’t change my mind.

    I once played bottom of the bill at The Kooler at The Bully, many moons ago. No soundcheck. No monitors. No engineer in the room during the set. No space as the other 2 acts wouldn’t (or were told not to) move both their drumkits & amps from the stage, so all four of us squeezed on. Thing is, I can’t complain, the show was so bad nothing would have redemmed it. We played like drunk deaf dogs wearing boxing gloves. In a box.

    I knocked over a bottle of beer during the set, due to the cramped conditions. The barperson irately cornered me after the set & demande dI go back onstage & mop up the spillage! Talk about humiliating. not to mention fucking ridiculous.

    Still, oddly enough, it was one of these “punter declares which band they’ve come to see” nights. We got 7 mates in, so we got 7 quid, which ended up being about as much as the other three acts put together!

  • thin green fred.

    The Riverside guys are cool, And we are goin to liven up are early slot.
    But we did really struggle at Fat Lils, The lights arew great and Rhys put the strobe on at all the right times, Maybe he was Just not used to a laptop in the line up.

  • phill

    We played there and we have a laptop and it was fine (if really quiet on stage!) but we had dan doing our sound

  • Big Tim

    TGC need it for their drummer to play to though, so it’s got to be loud enough onstage for him to hear it over himself.

  • phill

    get headphones